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I Saw The Killers Play An Arena-Rock Show In A Theater And It Was Awesome

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Earlier this month, a publicist invited me to see The Killers play a theater in St. Paul, Minnesota, near where I live. I immediately had questions. The first was: Why were The Killers — one of the few remaining American rock bands that plays arenas and headlines festivals — doing at a 2,500-capacity venue? Apparently, they were being paid by a bank to play an exclusive concert for credit card holders. Not very rock ‘n’ roll, clearly, but also not my problem. Somehow, I had never seen The Killers play live before, despite listening to them, off and on, for more than two decades. This seemed like a unique opportunity.

But I had other lingering questions. Who is even in The Killers at this point? You have Brandon Flowers, the flamboyant and besuited frontman, and Ronnie Vannucci Jr., the powerhouse and charismatic drummer. And then you have the other two guys, who move freely in and out of the band. (As I eventually discovered, this concert did include founding guitarist Dave Keuning, but not the bass player Mark Stoermer.) This prompted another pertinent question: Is this band still worth seeing? When they put out Hot Fuss in 2004, they were known as a sorta lame live act. But over time, as they stopped having “Mr. Brightside”-sized hits, they evolved (I was told) into a galvanizing force on stage. A U2 for the casino floor, an E Street Band for appreciators of sparkly jackets.

Finally, the most critical question of all: What is the state of The Killers? Despite everything, I was curious. I’ve always liked writing about them. They have a quality that many of my favorite artists share: Their failures and missteps are often more entertaining than their triumphs. It’s great fodder for a music critic. I might not always like their records, but I really enjoy riffing on them. There’s a roller-coaster aspect to their catalog. Hot Fuss is one of the best debut albums of the 21st century, but I have a special place in my heart for the critically reviled (though somewhat rehabilitated) follow-up, Sam’s Town. The records after that are more checkered, but there’s usually at least two or three perfectly bombastic rock anthems, like “A Dustland Fairtyale” or “Runaways.” In the 2020s, they made a frankly incredible comeback with 2020’s rousing Imploding The Mirage and then somehow topped it with Pressure Machine, a song cycle that sounded like Flowers’ attempt to make his own version of L.A. Garage Sessions ’83.

But that was four years ago now. And The Killers are again wandering in an uncertain wilderness. Flowers has announced two solo records and insists his band won’t put out another record “unless it is the best.” In 2024, they did a run of Hot Fuss anniversary shows in their hometown of Las Vegas. And now, here they were, playing a show for Middle American bank customers. Oh, and me, too. I told the publicist I was in.

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Let me just say up front: The show was last night and I loved it. If you ever get the chance to see The Killers play a special show for credit card holders in a theater, I heartily recommend it. Going in, I was a little worried that they might do some kind of “intimate” unplugged show, given the environment. Which is precisely what I didn’t want from this band. Your appreciation of The Killers hinges entirely on whether you like musical melodrama of the highest order. For many of my music-crit peers, Brandon Flowers singing about riding on the back of a hurricane in “When You Were Young” is simply too much. But not for me. The Killers still have their lane because outside of a few select icons (the aforementioned U2 and Bruce), few are willing and able to go to that place anymore.

Thankfully, The Killers went there again at this show. They played like they were at Madison Square Garden. (That included turning the volume up to levels that could be felt in the Twin Cities suburbs.) Their rock-star posturing was not at all tempered. They struck power stances, stood on amplifiers during guitar solos, and tossed drumsticks into the audience. They shot confetti into the air not once, but twice. And that suited the songs, so many of them recognizable hits, which sounded as immense and undeniable as ever.

Springsteen recently called Flowers “one of the most beautiful, pure voices in all of rock ‘n’ roll.” Before this concert, I thought that was hyperbole. I still think it’s hyperbole, though I find that the bole is significantly less hyper now. Flowers is, at the very least, part of a tiny fraternity of truly elite active lead singers. If Bruce is the Boss, then Flowers is the Host. That’s what he called himself a few songs into the set. “After all, we’re The Killers,” he declared, “and we’re in the service industry.” The performative humility was pure Vegas lounge singer, as was Flowers’ powder-blue suit. But his vocals are the opposite of lounge-y hackery. They are a testament to clean Mormon living — they aren’t just preserved in Hot Fuss amber, they’ve actually gotten better over time. So, score one for Bruce the music critic on that.

As for Vannucci, it’s rare for the drummer to be the second most magnetic presence on stage. (By my count, this is true for The Killers, The Eagles, The Who, Nirvana, and Black Midi.) And Keuning had his moments as well, particularly on the solo originated by Lindsey Buckingham for “Caution.” But the star of The Killers remains the tunes. They have what I like to call “the Tom Petty set,” which is a collection of songs (between 14 and 18) that you can line up in concert and absolutely annihilate an audience. It doesn’t matter where you’re playing, or how your last album performed, or whether the audience only has casual familiarity with the work. If you have “the Tom Petty set,” you have songs that everybody knows. And they just work in spaces where a large number of people are gathered. The Killers have that: “Somebody Told Me,” “Smile Like You Mean It,” “All These Things That I’ve Done,” “When You Were Young,” “Spaceman,” “Human,” and so on. They’re called The Killers for a reason.

And then there’s “Mr. Brightside,” the most lethal one of all. When I interviewed Flowers in 2021, I asked if he gets sick of playing this song. It’s a stock rock-critic question, and Flowers naturally said no. “I’m able to hear it through the hearts of the people in the venue,” he said. “Some of them, this is their first time seeing this song live, and so I still am able to harness some excitement for it.”

Part of me assumed that he was just saying that, because saying “Yes, I am sick of ‘Mr. Brightside’” would be bad for business. But then The Killers ended this concert with “Mr. Brightside,” and it suddenly seemed impossible that anyone could ever get sick of playing a song that gets this kind of reaction. It wasn’t just that people sang along. They sang along like they were six beers deep at karaoke night. Or sitting alone in the car after a terrible day. It was an orgasm of adulation for one of the most popular rock anthems of the 21st century. And in that moment, all my questions were answered. I realized that The Killers are, indeed, unkillable.

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The ‘F1’ Soundtrack Is The Perfect Example Of Music’s Growing Global Connection

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After months of revving audiences’ engines, F1 The Movie is roaring into theaters at last this weekend, along with a suitably pulse-pounding soundtrack. The album covers a wide range of genres, from Afrobeats and EDM to hip-hop and pop. The diversity of the album reflects the growing global appeal of the sport — and a commensurate growing global connection of the genres represented on it.

In case you’ve missed out on all the promotion for the movie, it follows Brad Pitt’s Sonny Hayes, a semi-washed Formula One driver who is asked to come back to the circuit to help train rookie driver Joshua Pearce (played by Damson Idris). The film not only stars a laundry list of current and former F1 drivers and personnel, but was also shot at real tracks all over the world.

So, it makes sense that the music used throughout would reflect that international appeal. As F1 gains popularity in more markets, genres like Afrobeats have become ubiquitous worldwide as well; Burna Boy is probably just as likely to be recognized walking the streets of New York or Paris as he is in his hometown, Port Harcourt in Nigeria. The same could be said of South Korean singer Rosé or Dutch producer Tiësto.

Even the rollout for the album has highlighted its attempt to tap into a broad range of markets. Launching the rollout with American rappers Don Toliver and Doja Cat and their song “Lose My Mind,” the minds behind promoting F1 The Album followed up with Rosé and “Messy,” then “Baja California” by Puerto Rican rapper Myke Towers. Each song released as a single showed off another facet of the multilingual, universal appeal of the project.

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There are four songs by African artists on F1 The Album: Burna Boy, who you may know from his hit songs like “Last Last” and “Sittin On Top Of The World”; Darkoo, whose single “Gangsta” peaked at No. 1 on the UK Afrobeats Chart; Mr Eazi, who pioneered Banku music, combining Nigerian chord progressions with Ghanaian highlife music; and Obongjayar, who in May released his second album, Paradise Now. While F1 does not currently have a base in Africa, BBC notes “F1 is still keen to have a grand prix in Africa, to make it a truly global world championship.”

  • Burna Boy — “Don’t Let Me Drown”
  • Darkoo — “Give Me Love”
  • Mr Eazi — “Attention”
  • Obongjayar — “Gasoline”

Country/Rock

While these two genres only get one major look each (and both could arguably fall under the “pop” category), they are represented by two of the biggest artists in each. Their presence here arguably represents America’s nascent but growing interest in Formula One, and brings that swaggering cowboy energy to the soundtrack that we are so known for worldwide. This also reflects Brad Pitt’s character’s position as both focal point and underdog in the film’s narrative; Guitar genres ask for a lot of “fake it ’til you make it” energy, which Mr. Hayes will certainly need to execute his vision of a comeback in the film. Also, these genres are pretty closely tied to US motorsports, so there’s that.

Dance

Of course, EDM has to be heavily represented here. F1 is still, by and large, a European sport, and regardless of the roots of electronic dance music (which have been endlessly rehashed online in the past couple of years), EDM is still mostly dominated by European figures. Interestingly, though, the names here come from even further reaches, with South Korea’s Peggy Gou, Australia’s Dom Dolla, and Tiësto. It’s also telling that Sexyy Red’s feature lands in this category, highlighting the increasing crossover between hip-hop and EDM.

Hip-Hop

It’s funny: big soundtracks had been leaning heavily on hip-hop since the ’90s, and while that tradition continues here, it also expands to reflect how global that genre has become since its inception in 1970s Bronx, New York. Yes, you have Houston and Compton (Don Toliver and Roddy Ricch) represented, but you also see Puerto Rico (Myke Towers) and the aforementioned crossover with EDM. Meanwhile, Myke Towers’ Spanish contribution samples from Golden Era hip-hop, bridging generations as well as languages and regions.

  • Don Toliver — “Lose My Mind” Feat. Doja Cat
  • Myke Towers — “Baja California”
  • Roddy Ricch — “Underdog

Pop

The pop contributions to the soundtrack parallel the popularity of F1, yes, but also the growing diversity within the genre itself. After all, “pop” is probably the most loosely defined of the musical styles here; It can range from the 1960s pop-soul of British artist Raye to the omnivorous maximalism of K-pop via Blackpink’s Rosé. Beer and McRae are dancey and upbeat, which matches the high-speed visuals throughout the film.

  • Madison Beer — “All At Once”
  • Raye — “Grandma Calls The Boy Bad News”
  • Rosé — “Messy”
  • Tate McRae — “Just Keep Watching
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Alex G Continues His ‘Headlights’ Rollout With The Warm Single ‘June Guitar’

Alex G is off to a hot start with his Headlights era, which he launched in May with the lead single “Afterlife.” Uproxx’s Steven Hyden called it “possibly the most immediately endearing song he’s ever written” in “a catalog already loaded with idiosyncratic earworms,” and now he’s back with more fresh music.

This time, it’s “June Guitar” (which he released just in the nick of time, month-wise). The new song is a slower burn than its predecessor and it reflects on the troubles of romance: “Love ain’t for the young anyhow / Something that you learn from fallin’ down.”

Watch the “June Guitar” video above. Alex also just added some UK and European shows, so find all of his upcoming tour dates below.

Alex G’s 2025 Tour Dates

07/25 — Newport, RI @ Newport Folk Festival
09/10 — Boston, MA @ Roadrunner
09/11 — Boston, MA @ Roadrunner
09/13 — Cleveland, OH @ The Agora
09/14 — Toronto, ON @ HISTORY
09/15 — Toronto, ON @ HISTORY
09/17 — Chicago, IL @ The Salt Shed
09/18 — St Paul, MN @ Palace Theatre
09/20 — Denver, CO @ Mission Ballroom
09/23 — Oakland, CA @ The Fox Theater
09/24 — Oakland, CA @ The Fox Theater
09/26 — Los Angeles, CA @ The Greek Theatre
09/27 — Los Angeles, CA @ The Greek Theatre
09/28 — Phoenix, AZ @ Arizona Financial Theatre
09/30 — Austin, TX @ Stubb’s Waller Creek Amphitheater
10/01 — Austin, TX @ Stubb’s Waller Creek Amphitheater
10/03 — Atlanta, GA @ The Eastern
10/04 — Nashville, TN @ Ryman Auditorium
10/06 — Raleigh, NC @ The Ritz
10/07 — Washington, DC @ The Anthem
10/08 — New York, NY @ Radio City Music Hall
10/09 — Brooklyn, NY @ Kings Theatre
10/11 — Philadelphia, PA @ The Fillmore
10/12 — Philadelphia, PA @ The Fillmore
11/05 — Berlin, Germany @ Huxley’s Neue West
11/06 — Cologne, Germany @ Die Kantine
11/07 — Amsterdam, Netherlands @ Paradiso
11/08 — Amsterdam, Netherlands @ Paradiso
11/10 — Brussels, Belgium @ Ancienne Belgique
11/12 — Paris, France @ La Cigale
11/14 — London, England @ Eventim Apollo
11/15 — Manchester, England @ Manchester Academy
11/17 — Glasgow, Scotland @ Barrowland Ballroom
11/18 — Dublin, Ireland @ Vicar Street
11/19 — Dublin, Ireland @ Vicar Street

Headlights is out 7/18 via RCA Records. Find more information here.

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Bailey Zimmerman And Diplo Link Up For The Fiery Country Banger ‘Ashes’

Last week, country star Bailey Zimmerman teased on social media, “I’ve been cooking up with @diplo for a long time trying to get a country summer smash for yall… I think we’ve got it… yall wanna hear it?!” Not long after, he revealed that the collaboration in question is called “Ashes,” and that it’d be out soon. Zimmerman and Diplo, naturally, waited to unveil the song on new music Friday today (June 27), so it’s out now.

On the fiery bop, Zimmerman sings about reuniting with an old partner, singing, “We’re just an old flame, burnin’ at both ends / Sour mash barrel, baby, when the match hits / Only thing I don’t know is how the hell we ain’t ashes / You burn me, I burn you / Quicker than the cold liquor we burn through / I bet the damn devil himself is askin’ / How the hell we ain’t ashes.”

Observant fans might have seen this one coming, as Diplo made a cameo appearance in Zimmerman’s “Comin’ In Cold” video earlier this month.

The tune comes from Zimmerman’s upcoming album Different Night Same Rodeo, which follows his hit 2023 debut Religiously. The Album.

Listen to “Ashes” above.

Different Night Same Rodeo is out 8/8 via Atlantic Records/Warner Music Nashville. Find more information here.

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Teyana Taylor Lies In A ‘Bed Of Roses’ With Aaron Pierre In Her Sensual New Video

Spike Tee is back. In the video for her new song, “Bed Of Roses,” Teyana Taylor casts herself and breakout heartthrob Aaron Pierre for a rather literal interpretation of the title, making for a moody, sensual visual companion to the smooth, mellow single. The video was directed by Taylor and executive produced by Missy Elliott and Paul Thomas Anderson.

The song also opens with a monologue from Issa Rae, who seeks to reassure a reluctant lover that he can let his guard down around her. Then, Teyana’s voice comes in, beckoning her own paramour to make a move: “You want it, you can have it / Don’t waste no time / You need it, I can please it / I want what’s mine.”

“Bed Of Roses” is the second single from Taylor’s upcoming, unexpected new album, Escape Room, which she announced earlier this month with the video for “Long Time.” The announcement caught some fans off guard after Taylor previously promised to walk away from music to work on her acting career due to feeling unappreciated by her label.

However, it looks like she’ll now continue to pursue both; her next film, One Battle After Another with Paul Thomas Anderson and Leonardo DiCaprio, opens in September, one month after the release of Escape Room.

You can watch Teyana Taylor’s video for “Bed Of Roses” above.

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IDK And Cordae’s Moody ‘Prince George’ Video Details The Dark Sides Of Their Hometown

A couple of years ago, NBA star Kevin Durant produced a documentary called Basketball County: In The Water, highlighting the hoop talent in his hometown, Prince George’s County in Maryland. And while the purpose of the doc was to plug local basketball stars, the film’s choice of music supervisor IDK and the soundtrack he created highlighted just how much music talent comes from the DMV area, as well.

IDK continues to put on for his hometown in his new single, “Prince George,” which features fellow PG County native, Cordae. The two rappers trade wordy verses over a jazzy beat, lamenting their loneliness but flexing their successes. Meanwhile, in the video for the single, Cordae and IDK roam an Italian city (heh), with shots of ancient ruins and gorgeous architecture juxtaposed alongside imagery of the Capitol buildings that were inspired by them. Throughout, black-and-white footage captures visions of other famous PG residents, contrasting them to scenes of violence and conflict.

It’s a pretty big day for PG County overall; Rico Nasty, who has collaborated with IDK, released her NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert today, and Wale, arguably the county’s foremost hip-hop pioneer, also dropped a new single, “CRG Freestyle.”

Watch IDK’s “Prince George” video featuring Cordae above.

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Rico Nasty Rocks Out In A Jam-Packed NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

Considering Rico Nasty hails from Prince George’s County, just a few miles away from NPR Music’s DC headquarters, it’s kind of shocking she hasn’t done a Tiny Desk Concert until now. She certainly makes up for the lost time, rocking out through a set made up mostly of selections from her new album, Lethal, including lead single “Teethsucker,” “Son Of A Gun,” and a sexy, stripped-down version of “On The Low.”

Of course, it just wouldn’t be a Rico Nasty show without performances of “Tia Tamera” and “Smack A Bitch,” her pre-pandemic breakout hits. Halfway through the set, the lights get low, and Rico continues in a spotlight, giving her performance a unique visual flair. An exuberant, electric performer, Rico would stand out no matter what, but in this case, she’s even more magnetic than usual, owing to her performing a hometown show. “I would not be who I am if not for the DMV,” she gushes.

Rico’s had a pretty impressive 2025 to date, making her acting debut in Apple TV’s new series Margo’s Got Money Troubles, and prepping her Lethal Tour, all while changing labels. The Sugar Trap pioneer remains a badass.

Watch Rico Nasty’s NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert above.

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Cardi B’s Post-Invasion Run Has Been Gravely Unappreciated

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We’ve been waiting for so long and, finally, Cardi B has announced her upcoming second album, Am I The Drama?. This is the follow-up to her classic, Grammy-winning 2018 debut, Invasion Of Privacy. To say the pressure is on for Ms. Belcalis to evade the sophomore jinx can’t be stated loudly enough. Every song from Invasion is certified platinum or higher. That’s right, all 13 songs. She’s the first female to achieve this feat.

Although we haven’t been blessed with a full body of work in recent times, Cardi has stayed active in her septennial era and continued to release music to varying levels of achievement and acceptance. Two records in particular really resonated with the general public and her insanely loyal fan base. In fact, much to the chagrin of social media music detractors, Cardi has decided that these older tunes will also be included on Drama, whether you like it or not, tweeting recently:

“This will be the last and only time I’m gonna address this.. WAP and Up are two of my biggest songs, my fans have been asking me to put them on an album, and people search for them on IOP all the time… they deserve a home.. I let haters make me not submit WAP for the Grammy’s and at this point I’m giving my fans what they want! These two songs don’t even count for first week sales so what are yall even crying about??? Do ya say anything when all these artist pull out all their little tricks and ponies to sell out??? Exactly….Now let them eat cake. Go cry about it!!!”

Good call, Bardi.

To take it further, I think the post-Invasion Cardi output has been gravely underappreciated. The following is a collection of a few of her infectious standalone singles and some of her scene-stealing guest appearances. Here are my seven favorite Cardi songs since she first shook up the rap world.

Cardi B — “Money” (2018)

Cash rules everything around Cardi and she wouldn’t have it any other way. Success looks good on her.

Cardi B — “Enough (Miami)” (2024)

Just last year, Cardi was radiating in the Sunshine State and putting her opps in their place.

Kay Flock — “Shake It” Feat. Cardi B, Dougie B, and Bory300 (2022)

Cardi returned to her Bronx roots and helped elevate this New York drill rap anthem to platinum status.

Glorilla — “Tomorrow 2” Feat. Cardi B (2022)

With crazy SZA and Ice Spice lyrical references, Cardi viciously bars up the competition.

Glorilla — “Wanna Be (Remix)” Feat. Megan Thee Stallion and Cardi B (2024)

Ms. Invasion takes over the Glo/Meg pairing with a potent opening verse. Sorry, BIA.

Flo Milli — “Never Lose Me (Remix)” Feat. SZA and Cardi B (2023)

A few artists tried to hop on this Flo/SZA collab, but none brought the sultry sexiness like Cardi.

Latto — “Put It On Da Floor Again” Feat. Cardi B (2023)

Cardi ain’t actin’ brand new, she knows what she has to do: silence her haters. One more time.

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Teddy Swims Puts A Bow On The ‘I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy’ Era With A ‘Complete Edition’ Featuring New Songs

The I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy era has been kind to Teddy Swims: “Lose Control” was his first No. 1 single, while I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy (Part 2) was his first top-5 album. Now Swims is putting a bow on the era with today’s (June 27) release of I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy (Complete Edition).

The release features all the songs from 2023’s I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy (Part 1) and this year’s Part 2, as well as six new ones, like the recent “God Went Crazy.”

Listen to one of the new songs, “Need You More,” above and find the I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy (Complete Edition) tracklist below.

Teddy Swims’ I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy (Complete Edition) Tracklist

1. “Need You More”
2. “God Went Crazy”
3. “Free Drugs”
4. “Small Hands” Feat. Raiche
5. “Dancing With Your Ghost”
6. “All Gas No Brakes” Feat. BigXthaPlug
7. “Not Your Man”
8. “Funeral”
9. “Your Kind Of Crazy”
10. “Bad Dreams”
11. “Are You Even Real” Feat. Giveon
12. “Black & White” Feat. Muni Long
13. “Northern Lights”
14. “Guilty”
15. “It Ain’t Easy”
16. “If You Ever Change Your Mind”
17. “She Got It” Feat. Coco Jones and Glorilla
18. “Hammer To The Heart”
19. “She Loves The Rain”
20. “Apple Juice”
21. “Tell Me”
22. “Growing Up Is Getting Old”
23. “Some Things I’ll Never Know”
24. “Lose Control”
25. “What More Can I Say”
26. “The Door”
27. “Goodbye’s Been Good To You”
28. “Last Communion”
29. “You Still Get To Me”
30. “Suitcase”
31. “Flame”
32. “Evergreen”

I’ve Tried Everything But Therapy (Complete Edition) is out now via Warner. Find more information here.

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Leikeli47 Opens Up On Revealing Her Face And Honoring Black Music History

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For the past decade, masked rapper Leikeli47 has been one of the most pioneering voices in hip-hop. Her music combining a spectrum of influences that, at times, seem polar opposites; ballroom and yardie culture would seem to be natural enemies, but Leikeli blended them as easily as breathing.

Last year, the East Coast nomad shocked the world by taking off her mask in the video for “450,” as she revealed the tracklist for her first album in two years, Lei Keli ft. 47 / For Promotional Use Only.

On the new album, Leikeli47 again honors a diverse swath of Black music history while creating a futuristic sound unlike anything listeners have heard before. While she had always dipped into EDM influences as smoothly as soulful R&B, here, she goes even deeper and wider, connecting disparate eras and genres of Black music in her quest to present herself as an inspiration to all listeners to trust in themselves and embrace who they are.

It’s been a few years since Uproxx last connected with Leikeli, but talking about her new album, it was like not a day had passed. And, just as in her music, she couldn’t help but give praise to her influences.

I’ve been wanting to ask you about the title of this album, Lei Keli ft. 47 / For Promotional Use Only. That is not only a mouthful, but clearly, undoubtedly very special to you. If you could just run down where that album title came from and what makes it so special to you.

Absolutely. Well, one, like I said, thank you, and two, I have a duty to innovate on me. When I say on me, I truly mean on me. So, Lei Keli ft. 47, I wanted to break up the purpose because I also want to make it very clear nothing about Lei Keli or 47 is a persona. This is purpose. I don’t deal in persona, I deal in purpose.

47 is the protector, man. I had to deal with the hardships, the ins and outs, the doubts. Can I, will I, am I good enough? Do I belong? And them coming together with that, that’s how I was able to build my own industry and my own world in the midst of what was going on. So, I never felt like I belonged, but at the same time, it wasn’t a thing that scared me. I actually welcomed it and I rushed to it. I also know and knew from the jump that I would never be for sale. I’m here of service, hence “for promotional use only.”

Absolutely. I actually have been living with this album for, I want to say, close to a year I think.

Yeah, you had it for a while.

It’s steeped in tradition, and it’s innovative at the same time, which reminds me very much of someone like Missy Elliott, where she would take the sounds that she grew up on, but she would also make stuff that still sounds futuristic 20 years after she made it. What were some of the traditions you drew from? How did you get involved in those traditions? I know we’ve talked before about how you were very big into ballroom culture, very big into EDM and house and very big into bashment, island culture.

Right. If I could be all honest, it’s all God, no typo, not a piece of a typo, again G-O-D. It was nothing that I could… How can I say it? I just know that I woke up one day, and it just was what it was. I’ve never not known this. I’ve never not known creating from nothing. I’ve never not known sound. I’ve never not seen sound. I’ve never not tasted sound.

So, I’m a church kid. I was blessed to grow up around my grannies. I was blessed to have to be raised by my great-grandparents and my grandparents. Then, of course, I was a kid in the street. I am just a girl from the hood. That was my playground and that was my inspiration.

But each and every couch, each and every pallet I stayed on, each and every cousin, auntie, friend, there was always something that was in that house that inspired me, be it a story being something, be it something I seen, be it something I heard. Even in the midst of our struggle, there was always Marvin, there was always Mary, there was always Luther. You got a little Bon Jovi here. You’re shaking it up, and there’s jazz over here. Then you turn around and you have things like Sesame Street, which PBS was free for kids like myself.

I’m proud of myself for not asking so early in the interview, but I do have to ask.

Come on.


Obviously, the biggest change for anybody who’s been a long time follower of the story is the fact that we now know what you look like. Was there any apprehension in taking away something that was so fundamental, so foundational to your… perception, to your brand, to people’s understanding of you? How did you overcome that apprehension? What did you learn about yourself in doing that, and what have been some of the changes that you’ve experienced as a result?

To answer your question, absolutely not. There was no apprehension, none. We went through a pandemic and this and that, and then of course, I’m not the most social media type person or whatever. Oddly enough, people think if you’re not on social media, you’re not living. Dumb.

But before it came off of you guys, it was already off for me. I just couldn’t wait to get to it. But there was no apprehension at all. I was so ready because as we spoke about, 47 is not a persona. It was my purpose. I would say this, I’ve always taken people as a case-by-case individual. That’s how I look at people. But being in that mask game, out of that mask, that was one of the main things that I learned to just really hold onto is that everyone is not the same. You have to take individuals by who they are as that individual and to also continue to live your life unafraid.

For that, I need to be right there for them. I need to be right there for them. If I’m not following my purpose, I’m being irresponsible. I just hope that with the way that I move, for those who do watch it, follow suit, man. I am not saying I’m perfect, but in that area right there, don’t listen to what others are saying. Don’t look at numbers, don’t look at no algorithms. Start, start, and don’t stop.

What’s the story behind “Passenger 47” and the “boing” sound that you put in there? I’m kind of obsessed with it.

It’s the mindset of elevation. When you think of a spring, it boings, it goes up. When you think of a Boeing plane, it goes up. When you think of any plane, it goes up. So, I just wanted to play off. So, that’s why even when you read the lyrics, I wrote Boeing plane, and then I also wrote “boing, boing” like the spring to let you know that in every way, elevate. In every way, just see yourself going up.

So, I know on the previous albums where you were doing the ballroom stuff, you were doing the house stuff. I’ve heard tons of artists using house music, dance, music, techno. You’re probably the first artist I’ve heard right around “Soft Serve,” “Sandhills,” those two, right? I’m trying to think of the name of the genre. It’s not dark house, but it’s very aggressive. There’s something in the earth trying to get out. What made you want to go in that direction?

Yeah, it just happened, man. But I will say once I started writing it and I started going and it was actually one of my most fun songs to write because of the play on words. So, “Soft Serve” and ballroom, of course, it’s an action. It’s a movement. It’s a way of being soft and feminine and that whole thing or whatever. But then there’s that. Of course, there’s the ice cream element of it. It was just such a fun way to create and mesh these worlds and play on these words and elevate the dance community, elevate ballroom community and people in their confidence by playing off of ice cream.

Because that word “serve” is so strong, especially in ballroom. In ballroom, you come to serve and in femininity, we want to be our most soft and prettiest, and it is what it is. But to say, “find a cone, this is war” in a song and say, “come get on this floor.” I don’t know how I did it. I don’t know. I don’t know.

I have a responsibility to make sure I come from the most purest form because if I can be all the way honest with it, as much as I’m accepted and loved and people know me for that sound and that world, because again, I do come from it authentically. It’s still not my real my world, it’s not mine. So, I have a responsibility for whenever I am blessed to be able to curate sounds from that space to do it as gritty and as hard.

I want every time you hear anything that’s reminiscent or that takes you to ballroom culture, you think of the Sinais, you think of ballroom classic videos by Caesar on YouTube and you think about going to $3 Bill and Open to Wall and you think about Cotton and Coffee and Khaliq and Art Toro. You think about these legends, Naomi and Sean Wesley.

Lei Keli ft. 47 / For Promotional Use Only is out now via Acrylic/Hardcover and Thirty Tigers.