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Over the summer, Wendy’s will be introducing some new, yet-to-be-announced items. And while we’re not sure what their gand plans are just yet, we have a feeling everything is going to lean on the spicy side. That starts today with the first drop in the bunch — a new dipping sauce named “Ghost Pepper Ranch.”

While the sauce won’t arrive at your local Wendy’s until July 12th, they sent us a box along with some nuggets and fries so we could have an early taste and give you the full rundown of what to expect. My hope was that the sauce would take Wendy’s already spicy nuggets and bring them to a tear-inducing state. You’d think after eating 15 Flamin’ Hot chips and ranking them, I’d have had my fill of spicy foods, but nope — I’m always here for more heat.

Let’s get into the sauce!

Ghost Pepper Ranch

On Fries

After sampling a dab of Ghost Pepper Ranch straight up, I went ahead and dipped some of Wendy’s fries in the sauce to see how intense the flavor was when paired with actual food. The sauce imparted a highly savory, almost butter-like creaminess to the french fries. I expected a burn given the use of Ghost Pepper but the heat was really subtle here, compounding onto itself the more you have. Still, for something made with Ghost Peppers — which range between 800,000 – 1,001,300 Scoville Heat Units, making them hotter than habanero peppers and, according to Wikipedia, 400 times hotter than Tabasco — I expected a more pronounced kick.

The heat does eventually build up in the back of the throat, but not in a way that is going to have you reaching for water or soda in an attempt to ease the burning sensation. I would describe it to friends as: “present but nonintrusive.”

On Nuggets

The sauce is good on fries, but it really comes alive with Wendy’s spicy nuggets. The pairing of flavors is so perfect that I’m willing to guess Wendy’s tested this sauce with these nuggets specifically in mind. When the creamy buttermilk ranch combines with the craggy coating of the nuggets, with its black pepper and cayenne-forward flavors, the fruity sweet notes of the ghost pepper start to emerge, offering a sweet-then-savory finish that helps to elevate the nuggets in both flavor and heat.

The real strength of this sauce is that Wendy’s doesn’t use it as a spicy gimmick for us nugget fans. This isn’t a sauce that you have to eat as a dare, it’s not going to inspire any social media content showing over-spiced freakouts. It’s accessible and makes an already great menu item, the spicy nuggets, even better.

The Bottom Line:

Wendy’s new Ghost Pepper Ranch isn’t as spicy as you’d think and certainly not as spicy as I personally wanted it to be, but with the way it adds subtle sweetness and heat to Wendy’s spicy chicken batter — it’s easily one of Wendy’s best sauces. I love it as a dip, but I’m hoping Wendy’s gets brave and puts it on one of their chicken sandwiches. My pick would be the Asiago Ranch Chicken Club, as it already uses ranch as its sauce of choice.

A Ghost Pepper Asiago Ranch Chicken Club spicy style would be one of the best chicken sandwich experiences in the fast food universe and the Wendy’s spicy nuggs paired with this sauce is already a classic combo.

Because Olivia Rodrigo‘s debut single and smash hit “Drivers License” was released during a global pandemic, the singer was not able to share her music with a live audience until five months later when she took 2021 Brit Awards stage for her TV debut performance. The set went smoothly, but the same can’t be said about the days leading up to the event. Apparently, Rodrigo thought she accidentally had carbon monoxide poisoning before taking the stage.

Rodrigo sat down for a spicy interview on the acclaim hot sauce challenge Hot Ones. Her Twitter bio may read “spicy pisces,” but she apparently has a low tolerance for hot foods. As someone who thinks bell peppers are spicy, Rodrigo was visibly in pain as she was asked to taste increasingly hotter sauces. During the conversation, the singer told the story of how she was extremely sick ahead of her Brit Awards performance:

“We were quarantining in this little 18th century English cottage in the countryside. It was so cold and we couldn’t figure out how to turn on the central air and heating, but they had a fireplace. So we lit the fireplace all the time and that’s how we kept warm. I remember one day waking up and it was so smokey. I think I got mild carbon monoxide poisoning because the whole day I couldn’t stop throwing up in this English countryside house. I recovered, I don’t know if I had carbon monoxide poisoning but I was very sick for a day.”

Watch Rodrigo’s full interview on Hot Ones above.

It wasn’t long ago that Microsoft was wondering why it is they had an Xbox division in the first place. The Xbox One wasn’t a colossal failure by any means, but it was a console that failed to inspire. Years later, Microsoft’s tone has completely changed. Not only are they fully behind the Xbox, but they’ve made a massive push to include PC gaming on Windows.

With Windows 11 on the way, Microsoft is at the point where it’s going to begin hyping up and sharing with everyone why they should be switching over to the newest operating system as soon as possible. One part of that push is how Windows 11 is going to be an OS that is beneficial to gamers. Throwing support behind the Xbox is one thing, but it’s become clear that Microsoft as a whole is going to make gaming a huge part of its future – and Windows 11 is going to make it a centerpiece.

With DirectStorage, which will only be available with Windows 11, games can quickly load assets to the graphics card without bogging down the CPU. This means you’ll get to experience incredibly detailed game worlds rendered at lightning speeds, without long load times. “DirectStorage Optimized” Windows 11 PCs are configured with the hardware and drivers needed to enable this amazing experience.

To put the above quote in layman’s terms, if you have a gaming PC and you play on Windows 11 you’re going to have a smoother experience than you would on competing OSs. Of course, everyone that is involved in PC gaming has known that Windows is the place to be, but it’s been rare to see Microsoft as a company throw itself behind gaming. Giving their support to the Xbox is one thing, but Windows OS is what the entire company is built on. This is a sign of support that Microsoft has rarely shown to the gaming side of its’ company in the past.

All of this does line up with how Microsoft and Xbox have been approaching this console generation so far. They want people in the Microsoft ecosystem on Gamepass. We’ve seen this with their push into the cloud and we will continue to see it in the future. Microsoft, as a company, is all in on gaming and Windows 11 is going to be another example of that support.

I’m not a religious man, but there is one holy holiday that I celebrate: Toretto Tuesday.

Every Tuesday, fans of the Fast & Furious franchise (FotFFF, for short) share their love for not only Dominic Toretto, but also Brian O’Conner, Letty Ortiz, Roman Pearce, Tej Parker, “Justice for” Han Lue, and the rest of the family, on social media. There are Tumblr photoshops; tweets (F9 star John Cena is a recent convert); and countless tributes to the late Paul Walker. I can’t locate the first use of #TorettoTuesday, but the term / way of life dates back to at least 2015 (it really took off around the release of Furious 7) and was originated by Vin Diesel, because of course it was. Vin Diesel *is* Fast & Furious, even if he doesn’t star in two of the nine movies (arguably the two weakest). He’s the lead, he’s the producer, he’s the franchise architect, he’s the guy who calls out freaking Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson — our future president — for not doing a good enough job.

But Diesel wasn’t the studio’s first choice to play Dom Toretto.

In 1995, Diesel’s directorial debut, Multi-Facial, was selected for screening at the prestigious Cannes Film Festival. The short, which he also starred in, wrote, produced, and provided the score of, caught the attention of Steven Spielberg, who cast the California-born actor in 1998’s Saving Private Ryan. That same year, Vibe published a story, “Racer X,” about New York City’s underground racing scene. “I was making The Skulls with Paul [Walker] and [director] Rob [Cohen], and we were looking for another movie to do together, and Universal approached me about this article in Vibe,” The Fast and the Furious producer Neal H. Moritz told EW. “I’ve always loved movies about subcultures and I knew Paul really loved car racing.” Walker was cast as Brian O’Conner, an undercover cop who’s tasked with investigating the street race scene.

The Fast and the Furious had its Brian, but still needed a Dominic, the family-loving street racing king who lives his life a quarter-mile at a time. It’s obvious in retrospect (and even at the time) that Universal Pictures should have targeted Vin Diesel and only Vin Diesel for the role — his last name is literally Diesel (actually, it’s Sinclair, but you get the idea). But the studio had another actor in mind. “The studio said, ‘If you get Timothy Olyphant to play the role of Dominic Toretto, the movie’s greenlit.’ We went to Tim and he passed, and we wondered if we were going to get to make it,” Moritz revealed.

Look, I love Timothy Olyphant. Justified is one of my favorite shows of all-time, and I was delighted when he popped up in The Mandalorian, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and Fargo. But he would have been a terrible Dom. He thinks so too. “It’s not my thing,” he said about turning down the role. “With me, I just thought, ‘Well, this will just be stupid.’ And I thought no one’s going to want to see this movie eight or nine different times. I mean, by the third or fourth sequel, people are going to definitely get bored of it.”

Olyphant, who has his own fast cars movie in Gone in 60 Seconds, does not have the right energy to play Dominic — he would not be able to say lines like, “You don’t turn your back on family, even when they do,” without a smirk. Diesel genuinely believes in what he’s saying. Fast & Furious is also one of the most racially diverse franchises, and having two white dudes, Olyphant and Walker, as the leads, would not have set a good precedent.

After Olyphant declined the part, Moritz’s attention turned to Diesel. “I had seen Pitch Black and knew Vin from [Multi-Facial], and I had convinced the studio that he had to be the guy,” he said. “We had our first meeting at the famed Kate Mantilini’s in Los Angeles, and I remember I’m sitting at the bar waiting for him, and, boy, when those doors opened, it was like there was a klieg light on him — here comes the biggest star in the world.” He’s not wrong: Diesel is in three of the 10 highest-grossing movies of all-time (Avengers: Endgame, Avengers: Infinity War, Furious 7), but he was initially hesitant to play Dom. His reaction to reading the script for the first time: “Eh, I don’t know.”

Here’s co-writer David Ayer (Suicide Squad) on working with Diesel to fix the movie:

“I sat down with Vin and really created that character with him. Yeah, there were characters in the script but it needed life, it needed to become real, it needed to become dimensional. He had a few really specific ideas about the character, and those little touchstones he handed me became something I could flesh out. It’s an honor to help an actor create and achieve a vision.”

Moritz added, “There’s nobody else that could have been Dominic Toretto. There would be no Fast & Furious without Vin in that role.” It’s hard to imagine Olyphant making “a trip to Cuba to understand the character,” as Diesel did, to play Dom. So why didn’t Vin, ever protective of his character, return for 2 Fast 2 Furious? Basically, he thought the script was terrible. When asked about the advice he would have given to himself years later, Diesel answered, “I would’ve said, ‘Don’t walk away from it just because the script sucked in 2 Fast 2 Furious because there’s an obligation to the audience to fight, no matter what, to make that film as good as possible.’ Just walking away doesn’t help that saga at all. I might have had a little bit more patience or belief in the long-term of it.”

He also had the siren song of The Chronicles of Riddick calling him.

Diesel returned for an uncredited cameo in The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift, but after the Justin Lin-directed film made almost $100 million less than 2 Fast 2 Furious, “the talk internally was that the franchise was played out,” Jeffrey Kirschenbaum, the co-president of production at Universal Pictures, told The Wrap. “At that point, we were weighing whether to go straight to video or not for future sequels. We weren’t sure what we were going to do.” But the studio wisely figured that the Tokyo Drift audience would go “ballistic” for Diesel’s cameo (they did), so an offer was made: “They said, ‘You haven’t returned to this franchise, but if you do this cameo, we’ll let you produce this thing into a true continuation piece of the first story.’ That’s how it all started,” he said. Diesel getting the rights to the Riddick character also sweetened the deal.

Vin was back, baby. Fast & Furious made $363 million at the international box office, dwarfing the totals from 2 Fast 2 Furious ($236 million) and Tokyo Drift ($158 million). From there, the franchise hit a new level of popularity, including two films, Furious 7 and The Fate of the Furious, that grossed over $1 billion worldwide. Even without Hobbs and Shaw (it’s a sore subject), the nine films have made well over $5 billion. If the studio had gone with Olyphant, Fast & Furious would have long ago stalled out as a direct-to-video curiosity; it might not have even made it to the VOD-era.

That would be a shame, because if there’s one thing I love, it’s:

One of the biggest questions facing any NBA team this offseason centers around Ben Simmons’ future with the Philadelphia 76ers. Following a playoff meltdown in which Simmons struggled mightily in a seven-game Eastern Conference Semifinal loss to the Atlanta Hawks, calls are louder than ever for the two sides to part ways.

Philly is taking a more pragmatic approach to Simmons’ offseason. President of basketball operations Daryl Morey did not make a definitive statement about the All-Star point forward’s future, saying that while “none of us can predict the future of what’s going to happen,” they “love” what Simmons brings to the table.

Still, the team is in a position where due diligence is required, and according to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, Morey and general manager Elton Brand met with Simmons’ agent, Rich Paul, to discuss the future.

Paul engaged the Sixers on whether it makes sense to work together to find a trade before the start of next season, but no request was made and the sides are expected to continue talking ahead of the July 29 NBA draft and August free agency, sources said.

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Teams have been using the Chicago pre-draft camp to gauge the Sixers’ interest in trade packages, sources said, although Philadelphia remains reluctant to break up the tandem of Joel Embiid and Simmons without maximizing a return and exhausting all possibilities to improve Simmons’ offense, sources said.

Simmons, who is signed through the next four seasons and is owed approximately $147 million, played well in the team’s first round win over the Washington Wizards, but looked like a shell of himself against the Hawks. Simmons averaged 9.9 points, 8.6 assists, 6.3 rebounds, and 1.3 steals against Atlanta while shooting 60 percent from the field. His most prominent issue was his free throw shooting, as he connected on 33.3 percent of his attempts from the charity stripe.

Rudy Giuliani‘s relentless (if not crazed) work pushing the “Big Lie” that Donald Trump won the 2020 presidential election has finally caught up with the once famed attorney. Through a court order issued on Thursday, Giuliani has been suspended from practicing law in the state due to his “demonstrably false and misleading statements” to court officials, lawmakers, and the entire American public. To throw salt in the wounds, the court order specifically states that Trump lost the election, and it was not “stolen” from him through fraud.

“These false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent’s narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client,” the Appellate Division of the New York Supreme Court wrote. “We conclude that respondent’s conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law, pending further proceedings before the Attorney Grievance Committee.”

Of course, this latest development is just one of the many legal woes facing Giuliani. He’s currently embroiled in an investigation over his part in the Ukraine scandal that led to Trump’s impeachment. Giuliani’s home and office were raided by the feds in such a way that his attorneys complained he’s being treated like “the head of a drug cartel or a terrorist.”

Giuliani also reportedly hasn’t been paid for his work for Trump that’s placed him in constant legal jeopardy up to and including having his law license suspended.

(Via Axios)

While most of us would love to never have to interact with Jared Kushner in person at any point in our lives, former president Donald Trump is reportedly annoyed that the 6’ 3” version of the doll from The Boy who he calls his son-in-law is trying to distance himself from the Trump name. While reports are swirling that Jared and Ivanka Trump are getting tired of hearing her pops bitch and moan about the “stolen” 2020 election, #45 seems more annoyed about being ghosted by Jared than his own flesh-and-blood (if that is indeed what Trumps are made of).

While appearing on Anderson Cooper 360 on Wednesday night, CNN anchor Jim Acosta—the man who recently dubbed Tucker Carlson the Fox News ‘Bullsh*t Factory’ Employee Of The Month—reported that people close to Trump say he’s grumbling about feeling “used” by slumlord-turned-failed Middle East peacemaker Kushner.

“It sounds as that Jared and Ivanka are trying to treat Trump as the coffee boy in all of this. I never thought I would see that day. I did talk to a long-time Trump adviser today who said, ‘You know what, Trump feels used by Jared Kushner.’ There’s a twist, Anderson, that I don’t know if we would ever see—Trump feeling used in all of this.

But listen, as for Jared and Ivanka trying to distance themselves: Keep in mind, I don’t want to go over all of the history in the last four years, but Jared was in charge of Middle East peace in the Trump administration. He had a heavy hand in the COVID response. He was working on, you know, the border wall. He was a campaign adviser and so on. There’s no rehab tour. There’s no PR spinning. There’s no separation that can be put in place between Trump and Jared and Ivanka that is going to wash the blood of January 6th off of their designer suits. It’s just not going to happen. And I think Jared and Ivanka can try this, but I don’t think they’re fooling anybody. I think a lot of people out there see their failures tied very tightly to the failures of former president Donald Trump.”

Acosta also reminded viewers that there were photos from January 6th that showed Ivanka with her father, so it’s clear that she knows exactly what happened on that day. “They could tell all,” Acosta said. “They could tell the public how sorry they are about January 6th and what happened to this country. And until they do that, should anybody really take them seriously? I think not.”

You can watch the full clip below.

(Via Raw Story)

On October 2, 2020, President Donald Trump tested positive for COVID-19. “We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately,” he tweeted, referring to himself and First Lady Melania Trump. “We will get through this TOGETHER!”

Trump did survive after a brief hospitalization at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, but a new book, Nightmare Scenario: Inside the Trump Administration’s Response to the Pandemic That Changed History by Yasmeen Abutaleb and Damian Paletta, writes that he came much closer to death than anyone at the time realized.

“Hours after his tweet announcing he and first lady Melania Trump had coronavirus infections, the president began a rapid spiral downward,” an excerpt published in the Washington Post reads. “His fever spiked, and his blood oxygen level fell below 94 percent, at one point dipping into the 80s. Sean Conley, the White House physician, attended the president at his bedside. Trump was given oxygen to stabilize him.”

The doctors gave Trump an eight-gram dose of two monoclonal antibodies through an intravenous tube. That experimental treatment was what had required the FDA’s sign-off. He was also given a first dose of the antiviral drug remdesivir, also by IV. That drug was authorized for use but still hard to get for many patients because it was in short supply.

The president was put on a “dizzying array of emergency medicines” on October 3, and according to Abutaleb and Paletta, “at least two of those who were briefed on Trump’s medical condition that weekend said he was gravely ill and feared that he wouldn’t make it out of Walter Reed.” But before long, he was “badgering” his physician Sean Conley to discharge him from the hospital, even though he was still at risk and contagious.

Trump was back at the White House on Monday night.

Trump’s medical advisers hoped his bout with the coronavirus, which was far more serious than acknowledged at the time, would inspire him to take the virus seriously. Perhaps now, they thought, he would encourage Americans to wear masks and put his health and medical officials front and center in the response.

Ha. Instead, in a staggering act of selfishness, Trump continued to ignore the severity of the virus that nearly killed him, causing tens of thousands of other people to die.

You can read the rest of the excerpt here.

(Via the Washington Post)

We and other personal finance experts have long talked about the financial challenges of the LGBTQ+ community. That includes access to equal housing, services protections and wage inequality because of one’s sexual orientation or gender identity.

While those protections would be included in the Equality Act, legislation remains pending in Congress.

To be fair, the LGBTQ+ community has made significant progress over the last several years. The two most notable being the Supreme Court’s 2015 ruling to ensure marriage equality and 2020 decision to ban employment discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity. That progress has continued with the current administration, as President Joe Biden recently signed executive orders protecting LGBTQ people from housing and services discrimination.

The LGBTQ+ community faces a unique set of financial challenges that are preventing equal opportunity for all.

Let’s break down some of the obstacles confronting members of the LGBTQ+ community.

Queer people are often expected to pay more

One LGBTQ+ financial challenge is the expectations — and misconception — that LGBTQ people can or should pay more because we don’t have kids. While 15% of LGBTQ people have kids — compared to 38% of opposite-sex couples — it’s not a cause for LGBTQ people having more money.

In fact, because of wage inequality for people in the LGBTQ community, having fewer opportunities for career advancement and in many cases needing the physical and emotional safety that comes with living in an LGBTQ-friendly city (many of which often have high costs of living), it’s likely that your LGBTQ+ sibling or friend doesn’t have as much financial security as their straight counterparts.

This is why we didn’t travel for the holidays for three years while paying off credit card debt. Adding $800 to $1,000 in plane tickets to the credit cards we were working hard to pay off didn’t make sense. Yet, our families never offered to come to where we lived for a holiday and foot the travel expenses.

A similar situation arises when caring for aging parents. LGBTQ folks are more likely to be asked to care for aging parents, which is backed by a 2010 MetLife study. This increases the financial burdens and restricts the savings opportunities for LGBTQ folks.

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Queer people, especially gay men, struggle with the ‘hysteresis effect’

There’s also the lingering consequence of the HIV/AIDS epidemic on the LGBTQ community, specifically for gay men.

As Paul Donovan said on Queer Money® episode 252 about his book, Profit and Prejudice: The Luddites of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, that then created a hysteresis effect.

The hysteresis effect occurs when a singular event has an economic effect that lasts even after the initial event no longer exists.

Of course, we’re still fighting HIV/AIDS. But we know more and have more resources to fight HIV/AIDS and it’s no longer the death sentence it once was. A lingering economic effect for many LGBTQ+ people is “an unhealthy short-term view when it comes to finances,” according to Donovan.

Our struggle with the hysteresis effect is one reason we got into $51,00 in credit card debt. We had a myopic view of what being successful was and spent accordingly.

Photo by Charles Deluvio on Unsplash

The consequences compound on the challenges above and the many LGBTQ+ financial challenges about which we and many others have written. For example, LGBTQ+ people have smaller emergency savings accounts, less in retirement savings and more in debt than the general population, according to Student Loan Hero.

How to overcome those challenges

Get clear and become committed to your life and money goals

There are a lot of emotions tied to money. We attach our self-worth and value to money. We sometimes feel guilty that we have money while we also sometimes feel guilty that we don’t have enough money. If we’re letting family or loved ones guilt us into paying for what we can’t afford, paying more than our fair share, or risking our financial security, we likely have emotional reasons, such as the need to please, to cause that.

This is just one reason why it’s important for LGBTQ+ folks to get crystal clear on what matters most to us. We must figure out what we want our lives to look like and what we want to achieve, then architect our lives to reach those goals. That includes financing. If being helpful, giving or being charitable is one of our goals, we can include that in our life and financial plans.

If we have fewer resources at hand, then being clear on the one or two things we most want to achieve in life can help us efficiently spend our money and have money left over to help the people we care about or to meet our obligations.

Let’s be hopeful (and intentional) about our future

As Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. famously said, “the arch of the moral universe is long and bends toward justice”.

There’s no doubt it’s bending toward justice in the LGBTQ+ community. The solution is that we must recognize that.

This means that while we live our best lives today, we must consider our long-term financial security and the lives we want to live when we’re older. To be clear, living our best lives today and having financial well-being to live our best lives in the future aren’t mutually exclusive.

Courtesy of Capital One’s website

It’s by talking with our friends and family about money, working with a Money Coach at a Capital One Café or other financial planner to recognize what matters most to us today and what we want in the future.

It’s for these challenges and opportunities that we’re strong advocates for LGBTQ+ financial independence and why we’re proud to partner with Capital One. Though people have nuanced backgrounds, Capital One believes, as we do, that finances should work for everyone. That’s why Capital One supports LGBTQ+ communities facing unique economic hardships through both products and programs supporting our needs.

Seth Rogen’s no stranger to shaking things up on the big and small screens while engaging in all manner of joyous outrageousness, often of the profane variety. He’s shown himself to be extremely on-point when it comes to what is and what isn’t an actual controversy. Rogen also previously went on record to say that comedians who complain about cancel culture should maybe back up and concede that their jokes have “aged terribly,” and in a new Interview Magazine feature, Rogen touches upon the subject of cancel culture again with another astute observation.

While speaking with fellow funnyperson Quinta Brunson, the pair’s discussion largely related to the subject of writing books (note: here are the many reasons why Rogen’s Yearbook is a must-read installment from him). Brunson laments how she still wants to enjoy some books that are considered controversial, like Catcher in the Rye, and Holes comes up in conversation, which brings Shia LaBeouf to mind for Rogen. That leads the Pineapple Express (yes, I will always love that movie) star down this path:

“It’s funny, I think it shows that people don’t find art to be a useful thing. If something is considered useful, no one questions for one second whether or not the person who made it was a fucking piece of shit. Henry Ford was a Nazi and no one said, “We shouldn’t use assembly lines anymore.”

This is more than a fair point. It’s so fair that it isn’t even funny, which makes it even funnier. And there’s no comeback possible for this point because it’s entirely true. Perhaps this point seems eerily true for automakers, and that might be entirely coincidental, but there’s a certain Tesla CEO who’s tweeted pretty awful things about pronouns and has been accused of “manipulating” the market. And that CEO has even been dubbed “Space Karen,” which says a lot, yet he does not appear to fear being cancelled (although “Anonymous” apparently had something to say on the subject).

Yep, I’ve arguably gone off on a tangent there, but Rogen’s point sure stands firm.

(Via Interview Magazine)